[ Music ] >> Welcome to another exciting accessible adventure of the Gene and David show. We've got a great show today on indoor recreation, and you know Dave our lucky audience will get to see an interview that we did with Lebron James here in Austin. So, you don't want to miss this show. >> I can't believe it. We were there doing some wheelchair basketball, and there he was. >> Lebron James. >> You'll get to see that later in this episode. >> But before we get started on that, Dave we have something else we'd like to share with the audience, don't we? >> Yeah. We really want to thank all of the fans that have been watching both on public access television channel here locally in Austin and also all the viewers who have tuned in to the website to see our flash videos. We received an award actually for our show. It's a media award from the Austin mayor. >> Austin mayor's committee for people with disabilities. That was a real honor, and it was a huge banquet, a huge ceremony they had. We were just really proud and humbled by the experience. We want to share this with our fans. >> So, thank you all for watching. I think our last episode was one of our finest. We really enjoyed doing it, and I loved seeing you jump out of cliffs and bungee jump off of a bridge in Africa. Every time I see that, I can't believe that's happened. So, if you haven't seen that episode yet, please watch it on our website. Tune into the outdoor recreation show. But, you know Gene, weather changes, and it gets cold outside. You can't always be kayaking or jumping off of bridges unless when it's cold here you fly halfway around the world where it's summer. Not everybody can do that, so we decided to do this episode on indoor recreation. >> I love being indoors during the cool weather, so we've got, you know me. I'm mr. research. I wanted to find out things about indoor recreation and disability, so I googled it. >> So you wanted to find out about indoor recreation, and you went to the library, right? >> What I did was I went to the google. I did that google thing, and I put in "indoor recreation and disability". >> And, you found wheelchair basketball. >> The very first thing I got. >> Wheelchair hockey? >> Not even close. >> Wheelchair bowling? >> You're getting colder. >> How about ping pong? >> Nope. The number one hit on google for indoor recreation and disability was indoor rock climbing. >> Rock climbing? >> Yep. Not this picture here of me on the cliffs of Socorro, New Mexico or on this cruise ship. Nope. Indoor rock climbing is unbelievable, but we're not going to be doing that. We just want to know that there's so many sports, so much indoor recreation. We decided to focus in on one wheelchair sports, indoor recreation for wheel chairs. >> Alright. So what's the first sport we're going to Gene? >> Let's try bowling. The Seton brain and spine, it's a program here. They take folks out bowling, and you can see in this clip here folks are, they have different approaches to bowling. Some will just pick up the ball and bowl as any other bowler would. Others like this kid here, he's got a standing frame wheelchair, and he'll stand up, place that ball on this apparatus, and aim that apparatus towards the pins, and let go, and that's his style. We saw somebody else that just threw the ball almost like a shot-put. It's just surprising. >> They also make a bowling ball with a handle in it that pops up, and the minute you throw it and release it, the handle pops back out into the ball. I didn't see anybody using that when we were there, but they do have those. >> Better recreation through technology. >> That's right. >> Yeah, and they also have these guide rails to prevent the ball from going into the gutter, and it was kind of a surprise for me. I never saw those before, but not only does it keep the ball from going into the gutter but if the ball bounces off it you might get a strike with it. >> You never know depending on your angle. >> You never know, so regardless what your disability is if you're in a wheelchair, you should be able to enjoy bowling. >> So, where can we enjoy bowling Gene? >> Good question Dave. This particular shot we took was at, >> 5700 Grove Avenue in Austin. >> Of course. I was just about to say that. It was a good time. Bowling isn't just for able bodied. Just about anyone in a chair could do it. So, come on out there to Grover, 5700 Grover and have yourself a good time. And, if you folks would like more information on bowling please go to the www.awba.org. Is that right Dave? >> Yeah it stands for American Wheel Bowling Association. There's an even an association for, man you and your google research. You are something. >> Well thank you Dave. I appreciate that. >> That's the American Wheelchair Bowling Association at www.awba.org. >> You mentioned cold. I want to come in from the cold, but one winter sport hockey, they found a way to bring that indoors for folks with wheelchairs. >> They put ice skates on wheelchairs? >> Well, not where we were filming, but we did find some folks who were playing indoor hockey in wheelchairs, and you could see here in this clip these guys have got these hockey sticks. Now, the tricky thing is they have to be able to push a chair and use the hockey sticks at the same time, and that's quite an athletic event right there. >> It does take some talent and practice. >> Indeed it does. >> Let's watch this clip. Wheel chair hockey. [ Sounds of hockey ] >> You know Dave, a lot of these sports around town we really need to be thankful to a gentleman named Mike Haynes. You've heard of me talking about him before. He's one of my heroes, but Mike is a famous Austin celebrity, a wheelchair user who started a lot of programs especially for kids in recreation. We talked with him a couple of times. Before we show this interview, I just wanted to show this one clip. Here we are. Mike and I are getting ready to do an interview, and he's clowning around of course. He's got to make sure we're both looking good and everything's looking perfect, but that's Mike. He always like to have a good time, but let's go ahead and listen to this interview that you and I interviewed Mike over at Hoops. >> Yeah. It was quite an honor. >> Dave, this is a real treat for me today. We have with us Mikes Haynes. Mike, you're one of my heroes for many years. I've never told you this, but you were one of the reasons that I moved to Austin. I heard about what you were doing with scuba, and I thought scuba diving. They've got a club at Austin, I've got to check it out. So, you started it? So, you started Eels on Wheels. Do I understand it correctly? You were one of the founders? >> Yeah. One of the founding members. >> And now you're doing wheelchair sports with the Lone Star Paralysis Foundation? >> Well, my job has changed a little bit. I'm raising money to cure paralysis, and we also fund the brain spine recovery center over at Brackenridge. So, we have an adapted sports program. We have advanced therapy. We're getting people up, getting them walking. Basically, our motto is keep people healthy enough so when we do find a cure we'll have some guinea pigs to try it on and hopefully have some people that are ready to walk again. I myself am not going to be able to utilize any of the function just because of all the years, but we're working really hard to cure paralysis and also provide an ongoing sports program and other things like advanced therapy. We have a fitness center that's for people with spinal cord injuries. They can come down and work out. We have a exercise bike where they can maintain their muscle density and stuff like that. >> It's the electrical stimulation? >> Yep. >> Great. If people want to get more information about the Lone Star Paralysis Foundation, where can they go? >> They can go to the website LoneStarParalysis.org or they can contact me at 512-673-7823, and we do a lot of different fundraisers. We've got vodka tasing party coming up here in a couple of days with Tito's vodka. It's a rough job sometimes. >> Sounds like it. >> Dave did you get your invitation? >> Oh it's open invitation. We can talk about it after the show. We'd love to have you guys come out. Tito is going to be out there making some really cool drinks, and it's over at the AT&T Center, and got a lot of good people. A lot of our board members buy a table and come out. >> Sounds like a good time. >> Yeah. >> I was telling Dave here before that you're one of my heroes because the sports you're doing with kids. Tell us about that Mike. >> Alright. We've got a program called Super Sports Saturday that we hold once a month, and we try to do different things and introduce the kids to all sorts of different activities. We just did a scuba program this last month. We played softball this last weekend. We had a pool party at Del Diamond at the end of the summer. So, we try to provide at least one program where parents can come and drop the kids off for a day, and they enjoy a sport. So, the parents get a day off. The kids get a day away from their parents, and we take them out and introduce them to hopefully something that they become passionate about. You've got a lot of passion in your life for the things that you do. You do some crazy stuff. I won't even go there with all that craziness. >> The great thing about it is the kids, they have someone like you as a role model to look up to, and I think that's so important to them. When I first injured back in '72, I didn't know anybody. >> Were people injured that long ago Gene? >> I'm not talking 1872. I'm talking 1972. >> Wow. You've been in that chair for a long time. >> It was hard for him to get around in his first chair with the square wheels. >> That's 38 years? Wow. I've been in one 28, but that's a long time. Did you get hurt at the age of two or what? >> 17. I fell from a cliff and broke my neck when I was 17. I have no idea what happened. I don't have any memory from that time. >> That's probably good. >> Yeah. Defense mechanism of mine, I don't know. But, no drugs, no drinking, just one of those things that happened that can happen. People can trip over themselves, fall off a cliff, so anyone can join the ranks of the disabled at any time. >> We like to say that we're the only fraternity that you can join at any time. We don't discriminate against anybody. >> That's right. >> And actually I do a think first program, and it's a head and spinal cord injury prevention program. We go out and talk to schools and try to have the kids use their minds to protect their bodies and think about things before they're doing things. We don't want to lecture them or anything, but just about diving, going feet first and things like that. So, if anybody's interested in that they can contact me, and we'd be more than happy to come out to their youth group or their school and do a Think First program. They're real popular right before Spring Break and right before the summer time, and again it's just a different way of thinking. Having fun but doing it in a safe manner. >> When it comes from someone like yourself that's in a wheelchair, it has a lot more credibility >> You think so? >> Yeah. Kids are really going to think twice when they think first. Well we appreciate you joining us. >> Is there a way to contact you for the think first program? >> Yeah. They can call me at the Lone Star Paralysis Foundation, 673-7823. >> In area code 512, and if people want to donate money. >> Oh we'll always take your money if you've got an extra dollar, five dollar, if you've got an extra million laying around we'll take it. >> Remind me to count my money. >> Alright. I'll do that. Well thanks for having me on the show. I really appreciate it. I love you guys. I got to tell you, I never knew I was one of your heroes, but you guys are definitely one of mine, and I appreciate all that you guys do, getting out there and covering all these things. You're just crazy man. I don't know if Dave is, but you've done some crazy things in your life. You continue. Is Dave the same way? Is that why you guys are such good compadres? >> Exactly. Dave's got to be crazy for working with me. Well we get the job done. >> Keep up the great work. >> Fantastic. Nice to do something, >> It really is. We've got a lot of people moving out here who have disabilities just because of the activities we have going on, the accessibility. You've got ADAPT here that's taking care of all the accessibility of everything, and people are moving here. Our basketball team is unbelievable the amount of people that we have playing. We've got a roster of 19 or something like that where a few years ago we could barely scrape together a team. >> Yeah the city of Austin has a cultural initiatives program, and they're trying to bring people here to Austin, and now, we've heard it here Dave, people are moving here because of the disability type programs. >> That's good news. >> Yes indeed. >> You mind taking a minute and tell us about your chair. >> Oh no, not at all. >> You've been taking about these and looking at them. Maybe get a little close up. Now your wheels are probably the definite thing that comes to mind are the wheels are tilted in. Maybe if you can turn around and show us. >> Like that? It's called camber. I think I've got about 18 degrees of camber, and it serves a couple of different purposes. One, you can turn around on a dime and then two if you've got two wheels, little dizzy there. I've you've got two wheels that are both cambered out, somebody can't get as close to you. So, if you're shooting you can lean over. Also, it keeps your fingers from being in between the casters. And then we've got a set of wheels on the back to keep it from tipping over, a set of wheels on the front. And this allows you, we used to have just one bar coming out, but now they've made a double. That way you can back up into somebody as close as you can to try to block their shot. But yeah, it's come a long way since the first sport chair in early 80s. And I hate to say it, but I was around to play with it back then. So, I've seen the technology just come a really long way. >> Yeah. It looks expensive. >> You can get a good sports chair for around 1,500 to 3,000 dollars, but yeah they are expensive. Our basketball team and our sports program provides these chairs for the youth and adults that want to participate. >> Good deal. >> I actually got through writing some grants, so if anybody has any good words with CVS pharmacies or the Christopher Reeves Foundation, please put in a good word for us. We could really use that equipment. >> We certainly will do that. >> Thank you. >> Thank you Mike. >> You've got it. >> It was good to talk to Mike, and if you want to get a hold of Mike or you want to email him and find something out about what kind of indoor sports are going on or what Mike's got going on these days, you can actually email him at Mike@lonestarparalysis.org >> It was amazing all the different indoor sports you could play in a wheelchair. >> Yeah and some are going back and forth playing both. They drop their hockey sticks and go over and start hitting the soccer ball around a little while. >> Yeah, and Larry Turner from Seton Brain and Spine organized a lot of these sports. To try to understand these sports, we interviewed him. This is what Larry had to say. >> Good old Larry. My kayak buddy. >> Definitely you were kayaking. >> And he did see me row by the way. Let's talk to him about that in this next interview. >> We're bringing back Larry with us. Larry thanks again for coming abroad man. You're holding the top record. You're been on more Gene and Dave shows than anybody else. Whatever new character shows up on Star Trek, they beam down to the planet, you know. You know that character is going to be dead and never seen again after that. But you're hanging in there with us. >> I'm hanging. >> We really appreciate it. In fact, you were with us along for the ride on the health episode when you were training Gene on how to ride the hand cycle here. >> Yeah. >> You can see that right here. [ Music ] >> And you pushed him to the limit definitely. >> I always push Gene to the limit. >> And then you joined us again when we took that little dip in Lady Bird Lake. >> Kayaking, >> Dave's not paddling. I wonder why. I wonder what's going on. You have any parting words for us there Dave? Anything you might want to say? >> Another refreshing day on the lake. Later Gene. >> I love that. >> You were kayaking with me, and just for the record now that you're here with me and to prove to Gene, anybody that watched the last episode knows that he was dogging on me for not rowing. I never rowed. However you were there. You were with me. >> He did row. >> He did? >> He did row. >> Too bad we don't have that on film Dave. >> I've got a witness right here. I rowed all of about two feet, >> There you go. >> But I rowed. >> He rowed. >> I rowed. Definitely. So we kind of got tired and hot of the outdoor recreation. In Texas, it is hot. >> Especially during the summer. >> Yeah. Especially during the summer. So, we want to find out new ways, other ways to do recreations, still get that work out in, and be able to do some stuff indoors. So, this show is featuring indoor recreation. Been following you around for a while now, and some basketball, some hockey, and some soccer. We've got some clips we'd like to show you of some of the stuff that people are doing, and we'll show it on the screen there. If you could just explain to us some stuff about what's going and maybe some of the rules of the game. >> Cool. Well, in this clip basically what participants are doing is it's just like AB basketball, able bodied basketball. Doing a warmup. To warmup we do layup drills, and basically that's what they're doing in the videos, some layup drills. A lot of times during our warmup here in practice, we do what we call a weave drill. A lot of able bodied teams do the same thing. With wheelchair basketball it's pretty similar to able bodied basketball. The only real difference is you've got the chair on the court, and it takes up a lot of space. But a lot of the same rules apply. >> How does the rule apply with dribbling? >> Basically there's four major differences from able bodied basketball to wheelchair basketball. >> Let's watch the next clip. Maybe you can kind of go over some of that stuff. >> Cool. >> One of the differences is the pay. >> Yeah definitely it is. As you can see in the video there basically what he's having to do to dribble is he gets two pushes, and then he has to bounce the ball at least once before he pushed the third time. So you get two pushes and then you have to dribble. That's one of the major differences in wheelchair basketball and able bodied basketball. Another thing is they're not following it that well, but when you're inside the paint it's a three second lane violation in able bodied basketball. In wheelchair basketball you have a four second lane violation. Then, I'm not seeing it on the video here, but basically another rule change is what they call a PAF, and that's a personal advantage foul. That's when somebody gets an advantage over another person just due to the functions of what type of function they have on the court. What I guess I'm trying to say is say you have amputee on the floor, he could actually the one leg he has, he could go move it around. >> Oh I see. >> Now, say a paraplegic, he's not able to move his legs, so if any way, shape, or form he uses his leg to get an advantage over that person that's a personal advantage foul. >> I see. Okay. >> Another thing that it comes into I guess into play there is the official watches. Like, say an amputee may use his foot to push up on the foot plate and reach for the ball, but if he sees air between the cushion and his buttocks, then he's going to call a personal advantage foul because a paraplegic is not going to be able to jump up or use his foot to get up off the seat. >> So really a level playing field. >> Correct. The fourth major rule is a classification rule. It's in a lot of detail, but basically you have a class one, class two, and then class three according to your function. So your amputees, they have the most function. They're going to be a class three. A class two is going to be somebody that has no lower extremity function, but has all their upper body and abdominals functioning. A class one is going to be someone that has some but not all of their abdominal function and no lower extremity function. >> Can someone with a class one play on the same side as someone that's class two or class three, or do they all have to be the same classification? >> Well, you get class, the way it works is you get classified as a one, two, or three and then our division that we play we're allowed 11 points out on the court. So out of our five players, we can have two threes, two twos, and a one. That adds up to 11 points. So, out of those five players we put out on the court, you can't go above 11 points. >> I see. Okay. And you can't put like 11 class ones out on the court. You can only put five players out there. So that's kind of how the classification system works. But other than those four things, everything goes by NCAA rules. >> Fantastic. >> Yeah. Thanks to the wonderful technology of the iPad that we were using to show some of the clips, Larry could actually look at the clips and tell us more about what was going on. Really opened up a new world to us on indoor recreation and some of the rules and things you can or can't do and some of the people that participate in indoor recreation. >> Yep. As they say, better recreation through technology. >> So, Gene when we were filming the hockey stuff, some really good live action there, and there was people of all different ages playing hockey too. That's what I think was really cool about these wheel chair sports is anybody any age can play against each other. Everybody was having a really good time, and just getting in some indoor recreation. But on the other side of the gymnasium, right next to the hockey players were some soccer players. >> It's amazing what sports you can bring indoors and people in wheelchairs can participate in. It's fantastic. Let's check out a few clips of them playing soccer. >> Wheelchair style of course. [ Talking ] >> They can control the ball, they can hit it with their wheelchairs, just got to keep that ball moving. Sometimes they get going pretty fast. >> It's really great that all these indoor recreation opportunities are available here in Austin, and I think the man that we have to thank for that is definitely my kayak buddy Larry Turner. I can't wait for the weather to warm back up and to start doing that again. >> Yeah. If you really like to get aggressive, try wheelchair basketball. These guys can really move. They knock each other out of their chairs. I'm not sure that's part of the game plan, but it does happen. These guys can really move. >> Yeah Gene. I didn't realize Austin had such a great wheelchair basketball team. It went to the Paralympics, and it won several medals and awards. How many people there actually are that participate in that, I didn't know there was that many people in Austin that used wheelchairs. >> Yeah really. That surprised me as well. But the Austin Rec'ers are I think ranked number six in the nation right now. So if you've got some talent you'd like to lend, come out to the Austin Rec'ers here at Hoop Zone and show what you've got. >> Yeah. Or, if you just want to check them out at practice or maybe even a game, you can go to their website. >> You talked about Paralympics before. One of the basketball players Dave Wear has been a Paralympics for shot put, I think javelin, and believe it or not this big huge muscle bound guy played table tennis. >> That's right. Ping pong. >> Ping pong. Another indoor sport for folks with disabilities, but here's what they had to say. >> First Lebron James and now Larry Byrd. What do you know? Thanks for coming out and joining us Larry. Oh wait a minute. >> That's not Larry Byrd. That's super Dave. >> Super Dave Wear, right? >> How are you all doing? >> Good. How are you Dave? Thanks for joining us on the Dave and Gene show. Appreciate you being here. >> Thanks. >> Dave you've got quite a history in sports, and tell our audience a little bit about it because you were a high profile athlete. >> Yeah I kind of got started, I got hurt in 1976, and I went to college at [inaudible] Texas and became a watchmaker and a jeweler, and then I decided to come to Austin. >> You look like the kind of guy who would be a watchmaker. >> And I go to Austin, and I ended up finding some people that had an actual basketball team playing at University of Texas, and that was back in the 80s. We had a guy named Randy Snow who was real famous, and he played on the team. We started from there, and we were playing on UT for a long time. We ended up finally wanting to go to the city, and it was just only two people that we had left. Everybody graduated and moved on, and I was at that time probably 1990 or so, we were wondering if we were going to have a team at all in Austin. So, we actually started a non-profit organization, and there was four of us, me and Mike Haynes and two ladies, Espinosa and a lady that just died. We ended up starting the team there. From that point, we start growing and who knows. Here it is. We got 19 players now, and probably going to go for a national championship. >> Last year, how did you do? >> Actually we ended up at number six in the US. >> Number six ladies and gentlemen. Austin, Texas. >> And we were very fantastic, very happy about getting to that point. It was just a fantastic situation, and we're happy we had an opportunity to be there. >> Now don't make me pry this out of you, but you played in the 88 Paralympics, isn't that right? >> Yes I did. >> What events? >> In 1988, I did shot put, discus, and javelin and table tennis of all things. I was number two in the United States at table tennis. >> Wow. >> In my division. I was always number one or number two in shot put, discus, or javelin. >> Well that's fantastic. >> The year before in Austria, I competed there and actually got to hold the American flag and roll around the stadium. That was quite an honor. But going to Korea in the Olympics and hearing 150,000 people at the opening ceremony, it was just unbelievable. To this day, I see the Olympics and I get a tear in my eye every time. >> The Paralympics, are they also every four years? >> They're held in conjunction with the abled bodied Olympics. They're always two weeks after the Olympics at the same complex, same stadium. Of course there's winter and summer Olympics. We have downhill snow skiing. Everything's the same. >> Because uphill snow skiing is more difficult? >> Yeah. It's very difficult. >> We understand that you're playing [inaudible] now you play with the Austin Rec'ers? >> Austin Rec'ers is the wheelchair team. I actually came up with the name myself back at the time. I didn't want it to be just the Austin basketball team. The reason why came up with Rec'ers was Rec for recreational sports, and we address different people other than just basketball. >> So, an athlete and a smart guy. >> Thank you. >> So, what do we have to look forward to in this upcoming season Dave? >> Looks like we're going to be going to Maryland next month October, and we have a tournament in November. I think it's the 5th. And then Vegas in December I believe, a tournament in Kentucky, Lexington, and then Tennessee. >> All that travel sounds expensive. How do you guys fund all that? >> We actually got into a 501c3 organization. We actually got into a bingo hall. A long time ago paralyzed veterans helped us with our basketball many years ago, and they kind of helped us direct that area to get into that fund. And through that funding, we give a lot back to the Austin area. We're supporting the quad rugby team. We donated goals for east Austin, and we donated money to the Lone Star Paralysis Foundation. >> Wow. I think that Gene and Dave show could also use some donations. >> So, how can people get in touch with you? Is there a website? >> It's Austinrecers.org >> Recers is Reckers? >> Recers. >> .com or .org? >> .org yeah. >> It's right there at the bottom of the screen Gene. Don't you see it. >> Duh. I don't know what's wrong with me Dave. I don't know why you put up with me. >> I don't know either. Anyway, check the bottom of their website, and then more importantly go watch them play because its' pretty exciting. Now I know Gene where I'm from up in Kansas in the small towns, a lot of times it's really hard to participate in indoor sports because there's just not that many people that are either in wheelchairs or have disabilities in the smaller towns. So, I know that you've got to branch out to the bigger towns to have access to them, like Austin. I'm sure there's some place near you that's a larger metroplex so to speak. I just can't see never playing or having any type of recreation. In fact, We asked a few people how they felt if there was no indoor recreation for people with disabilities. >> Yeah. We asked Skippy the Wonder Tuna how he would feel if he wasn't able to participate in the wheelchair sports, and this is what he said. >> I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore. >> No wonder Skippy is mad as hell. I don't blame him. >> Must've gotten up on the wrong side of the pond that day. Poor Skippy. >> With all these different wheelchair sports going on, you see a lot of folks in manual wheelchairs. Well, Dave and I both use electric wheel chairs, but we still like to compete. So, we've setup a special competition between Dave and I today, and feel free to root for whoever you like the best. But, we're going to have our first balloon blowing up competition. Now, we're not going to blow up the balloons with our mouths. That would be the easy way, but it wouldn't be the Gene and Dave way. >> That's right. >> So we're going to blow the balloons up with our ears, so get ready to enjoy this competition. [ Music ] Okay are we ready? >> Alright. I'm ready. Let's do it. [ Music ] >> There you have it folks. The first indoor balloon competition. >> That's how you do it. Blow it out your ear Gene. >> You know Dave, you mentioned basketball. We've also got quad rugby which is made famous by the movie Murderball that the coaches here in Austin area, we haven't been able a hold of them over phone or email, but there is a sport that you might want to take a look into. And there's also curling, a sport for folks in wheelchairs who want to spend some time indoors on a recreational past time. >> There's a website for curling too, right Gene? >> There certainly is, and that website is www.worldcurlingorganization.org >> /wheelchair-curling That's a lot to write down when watching a TV show, but I'll tell you what if you go to the website they'll all be on the show info part of the website, all of the URLs that we've given you during this episode will be right there. So, all you have to do is click on them. So, go visit theGeneandDaveshow.com >> Just to share you what big celebrities are, we also have an interview with Lebron James. >> I couldn't believe it. We were there at Hoops watching the wheelchair basketball, and who walks in but Lebron James. >> So we couldn't pass up this opportunity. We interviewed Lebron. Now me being from Cleveland had a special interest in it. So, here's the interview you've been waiting for on our show, David and I interview Lebron James. >> Lebron. >> How are you doing Lebron? >> Why did you leave Cleveland? >> I guess I gotta get me a ring man. >> So, it was all about the game. >> Yeah. >> Just looking for the championship. >> Yes sir. >> So, how was the weather in Miami? >> It's tropical. >> It's tropical? Is that why they call it Miami heat? >> I guess so. >> Did you sell your house in Cleveland yet Lebron? >> No not yet. >> Still on the market, or are you making sure that Miami is the right place for you to be? >> Well, I guess I am the team, so I guess you're right about that. >> Lebron, we're glad you're able to make it out here to Austin for this interview. Most big time basketball players wouldn't do it, but you're being a real sport about it, and we appreciate it. What do you like most about the game of basketball? >> Court time, going out there and playing basketball. >> Getting some good exercise? Some time with your brothers. >> Yeah. >> Good deal. Good exercise. I wish I can do that. >> Well, you can Gene. >> You mean wheelchair basketball? >> Absolutely. They have it right here at Hoop Zone as well. >> Wow. Ever play that Lebron? >> I would like to play it, but it seems like too aggressive out there. I've seen people play aggressive. >> Yeah. I've seen people get knocked out of their chairs. >> I think it's more aggressive than normal basketball. >> Yeah. Lebron what else do you do here in Austin? >> Seeing the sights, going to some UT football games. >> Great. You're a sports fan from way back, you just love sports. >> Yeah. >> That's cool. Well Dave, what say we get started on some wheelchair basketball because I'm dying to try my hand at it? >> And you're already here on the Gene and Dave show. Wheelchair basketball is too rough for Lebron James. >> That's right. You know Dave, that was kind of exciting for me. It was a brush with celebrity. >> It was. I can't believe I didn't even get his autograph. >> I didn't either now that you mention it. >> Yeah. Oh well. That's the way it goes. >> Well tell you what, you'll definitely want to tune in to our next show on family. If you're someone with a disability in a family, you might want to take a look at this. We're going to talk about kids. Dave you've got a kid. Talking about married couples with one or both people who have disabilities, and we'll be talking about extended families. So, you'll definitely want to see that show. >> And if you've got a show idea for us or you want to talk about your family with us, please email us. 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